We are talking like chelsea handler vs ellen, eh? I got nothing.
Yes, that.And somewhat relatedly: Single girl is funny, is interpreted by internet as slutty. What's with that?
I don't know. Here are comediennes that I can think of, off the top of my head, who don't appear (to me) to be sexualized or stripped of femininity:Sarah SilvermanTina FeyEllen DeGeneresRoseanne BarrAmy PoehlerGilda RadnerJane CurtinUnless I'm misunderstanding your meaning. I wouldn't say that Sarah Silverman appears slutty or sexless. Sometimes her photo shoots are sexy and sometimes they're goofy and comedic, for example, and her comedy is across the board.
The sworking list of exceptions I had in my head included:Tina FeyAmy PoehlerSarah SilvermanKatey SagalI think that Roseanne Barr is slightly more complicated because I have an issue with female comedians being funny vs. 'outrageous'
Honestly, I think it depends what the person uses for their humor. Look at a blogger like Metalia. She is hilarious and doesn't come off as either extreme, mainly because she just chooses to talk about other topics.As far as famous comediennes go, I think they are relying on stereotypes to make their humor and that's why they get stereotyped.
well, I do know that before I had my breast reduction everyone thought I was slutty before they even got to know me. I mean, I was, but they didn't know that.
Can I get back to you on this after I adjust my push up bra and reapply my lip gloss?
Only if you're wearing the fuck-me go-go boots.
For a long time, (and some would say even still now) comedy was considered a man's business. (There are still very few women who write on Late Night talkshows, network sitcoms are still primarily written by men, etc.) The Madonna/Whore thing is an easy way to categorize/relate to women. The stereotype single and slutty, married and asexual, oh, and single old and asexual) are comforting.(Note: this is not to say that I AGREE with them, or I think they're RIGHT.)Having been a female who has worked in comedy, it's easy to slip into the fuckable friend or mommy mode. Also, there's a difference, I think with comedic actresses, and those who do stand-up. Stand up is way more personal than speaking someone else's words. (That's not to downplay the job of an actor, but it's different. Stand up is YOU. Acting is fooling someone into believing it's YOU.)
I was going to disagree with you, but then I thought..women like Tina Fey who are intelligent come across as sexless...so yeah.Intelligent women don't seem to also be able to ooze sex. Chelsea Handler, while awesome, is sexy. And smart, but her intelligence is not capitalized upon. I will have to think about this more...
I think you could probably say the same of funny men in general. What that contributes to the discussion...I don't know. Just sayin'.
Oh but Metalia is dead-sexy!
YES. This is EXACTLY what I was trying to say.Thank you.
Well, MY milkshake brings all the boys to the yard...oh wait...